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AudioLaw@aol.com
It does seem clear that Mohamad’s worshippers and followers have developed a strain of thought that killing lots of people for lots of reasons, is holy work. This seems quite traditional, as it is in Christianity, from falsely labeling Jews as “Christ Killers”, to burning witches at the stake (usually impoverished women), torturing and killing heretics, and these days killing women’s health care providers.
The website you linked to is CLEAR. It uses boldface type for what is actually in the Qur’an and then regular type to distort what the Qur’an actually says. I particularly note that bit that says the word the Qur’an uses for “curse” can also be claimed to mean “kill”. So we can see that, just as with Christianity and Israeli Judaism, language can be perverted to mean whatever the user wants it to mean.
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Oracle
McM: “politicians need to figure out how to motivate Americans to have more children “
NO!
The biggest problem the entire world faces is TOO MANY PEOPLE.
We do not have the jobs (automation) or the resources or fresh water to handle the 7 billion people now living.
Adding more people is throwing gasoline on a fire.
As usual, the far right has a very myopic view of the world and the problems.
They cannot see or think outside of their immediate line-of-sight.
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Jane, I don’t always agree with you, but you ate right on about Charlie Hebdo. What he did was not satire. Not art. He was provocative. I don’t even feel bad for him.
I regret innocent people who died.
Those poor souls in the kosher shop did not provoke anyone. It’s all very sad.
Sent from my HTC One™ VX, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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Jane Stillwater” <jpstillwater@yahoo
Date: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 8:48 PM
According to journalist Glen Ford, here are the little monsters in Paris and the Big Monsters in DC and NATO that started this whole snowball rolling in the first place. And he’s right.
Who benefits from being Charlie: “I am NOT Bibi Netanyahu!”
By Jane Stillwater http://jpstillwater.blogspot.com/2015/01/who-benefits-from-being-charlie-i-am.html
Clearly this subject has already been covered in the media news cycle ad nauseam but I still can’t stop thinking about the
“I am Charlie” concept. Was the idea behind all those people who held up “I am Charlie” posters supposed to be about protecting free speech? Really? Then why isn’t everyone carrying “I am Julian
Assange, Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden” posters too? http://jpstillwater.blogspot.com/2015/01/blog-post.html Or demanding that the police stop arresting guys who falsely yell
“Fire!” in a crowded theater or deliberately start barroom brawls?
Or if those “I am Charlie” posters are in protest of armed thugs in
Paris gunning down civilians in cold blood, then why isn’t everyone in
Paris also carrying posters proclaiming “I am
Iraq” or “I am Syria” or “I
am
Palestine” or “I am Ukraine” or Libya or Mali or…. You get the
picture. http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/1/11/je-suis-gaza
All those people holding up signs protesting the slaughter on Rue
Nicolas-Appert might actually think that they too are “Charlie” — and
that’s fine. Terrible things happened to the employees of Charlie
Hebdo. No one should ever have to suffer the fate of being shot down in
cold blood, and thus the victims deserve to be mourned. However I
myself chose NOT to be Charlie Hebdo, a vicious slimy obscene rag
clearly designed to stir up religious tensions in France. http://www.workers.org/articles/2015/01/13/charlie-hebdo-free-press-racism/
And I also choose not to
be any other bigots or terrorist troublemakers who
clearly delight in trying to stir up religious tensions in France,
crassly using others’ religious differences to pave their own way to
riches and power — and yet who have the ultimate and offensive
hypocrisy and nerve to show up for the French “I am Charlie” marches
with innocent smiles on their faces. “Who us?” they innocently proclaim
— after doing everything they possibly can to stir up bigotry against
Muslims. http://www.jpost.com/International/European-leaders-to-attend-Paris-anti-terror-march-Sunday-387290
I am NOT Avigdor Liberman
I am NOT Naftali Bennet
And I am definitely NOT Bibi Netanyahu.
These three guys and their cohorts seem to be always at the center of
any religious tension or terrorist attack almost anywhere in the world — starting in 1948
when the Stern Gang blew up the King David Hotel and Moshe Dayan’s
“army” slaughtered Christian and Muslim Palestinians left and right in
order to steal their land. “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in
the Middle East,”a Jesuit priest stated back then. And that’s still true today.
Israel’s sleazy military-industrial complex then went on to be an
uber-cheerleader for America when our own sleazy military-industrial
complex bombed Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia,
Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia and I forget what all else. And Israeli
neo-cons themselves have bombed Palestine, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon
and I forget what all else too — not to mention their documented
ongoing support for ISIS and Al Qaeda. http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-military-supports-al-qaeda-tel-avivs-dirty-role-playing-in-the-syrian-crisis/5371624
If bombs, missiles, white phosphorus, tanks, false-flag operations,
F-16s, tear gas or even bottle-rockets are involved, Bibi and these guys
are so there!
Millions dead in the Middle East? I call that terrorism. And yet Bibi and his minions actually had the chutzpah to
march in Paris “against terrorism,” according to
Paris Match. Yeah, right.
Yet who benefited from the Charlie Hebdo incident? Let’s see.
According to Paul Craig Roberts, it’s the American military-industrial
complex that benefited. “Not France, not Muslims, but US world hegemony. US
hegemony over the world is what the CIA supports. US world hegemony is
the neoconservative-imposed foreign policy of the US.” http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/08/charlie-hebdo-tsarnaevs-trial-qui-bono/
But as they say in poker, “I’ll see Roberts and raise him.” Netanyahu
benefited. Apparently, right before the Charlie Dodo incident was
staged, France had just announced that it might be backing off
supporting sanctions on Russia. What? No immediate prospect of World
War III? No big Israeli weapons sales? Bibi must have been tres disappointed!
France had
also just announced that it was gonna recognize the Palestinian state. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/world/europe/france-vote-recognize-palestine.html?_r=0 OMG! That must have totally pissed Netanyahu off.
Also, our Bibi is having trouble finding settlers to occupy his many
illegal condos in Palestine’s West Bank. But he just loves French Jews
— and hopes to scare them enough to force them to flee to Israel and
live rent-free on Palestinian land. Heck, I like Israel well enough.
Wouldn’t mind living there myself. It’s a nice place. Heck, even the
Palestinians used to like living there too. But it’s
the Israeli neo-cons’ blood-thirsty hypocritical
scheming military-industrial-complex-flaunting neo-con
national-socialist leaders that I do not respect or cannot like.
And I’m not being anti-Semitic here. Let’s leave all that religious
bigotry to Charlie Hebdo. I am only being a student of American-Israeli
neo-con “Realpolitik” (Rāˈälpōliˌtēk/: Asystem of politics or principles based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations). And Realpolitik has nothing to do with religion.
Good grief, I’m so glad that I’m NOT Netanyahu.
And I also feel nothing but compassion for all the billions of Muslims,
Christians and Jews who are being subjected to his vile manipulations.
I also feel nothing but compassion for the hostages in the kosher
supermarket who were also victims of Bibi’s lust for money and power and
to create chaos throughout the world. Even if it means putting all the
world’s Jews in danger again.
PS:
What is going to happen next in France? Or in Israel and the United
States too, for that matter. As my friend RJ
suggests, let’s follow Norway’s heroic example after the dreadful 2011
massacre there and stop spending our patrimony on guns, bombs, war and
alienation and start spending that money on integrating our nations’
diversity
into our national bank of excellent human resources instead. http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/charlie-hebdo-and-the-hypocrisy-of-pencils/
We’ve already wasted a hundred trillion dollars on “war” so far, only to
discover again and again that violence doesn’t ever
work. Not in the Middle East, not in Ukraine, not in Paris, not at the
World Trade Center and not in Ferguson either. Just imagine if we had
spent all that money on education, jobs, and integrating our society
into a
smooth-running democratic machine instead.
To paraphrase Thomas Piketty, “You can’t have a political democracy
unless you have an economic democracy too.” And “war” has ruined —
absolutely ruined — the economic democracy of both Israel and the USA.
And probably France too.
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There never was any country that was ruled by Communism. Name one and I’ll buy you a Ice Cream Cone. More people have been murdered by religion than anything else.
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Monday, January 12, 2015, Puma <CactusCougar@msn.com> wrote:
Here’s my question though: Those two crazy brothers there in Paris shot those Charlie Hebdo folks which is awful BUT at least they killed the people they wanted to kill because they……who knows? Offended Mohammad? Maybe. Owed them a few Euros? Possible. Mossad paid them to do it to start some crap? Could be. On the other hand, that crazy USAF pilot traveled halfway around the world and killed 50 people for what reason exactly? I mean, that guy wanted to kill some total strangers (including children) so bad, he went through all that trouble and didn’t even have a grudge against them. Talk about kill-crazy. Those two jerks in Paris don’t hold an ace to him, that’s for sure. Maybe a head shrink needs to examine that crazy pilot. Or those nutcases in that helicopter in Iraq. Remember them? Shooting at the people there, even children, and pretending they’re playing a video game and even whooping when they killed someone. Now that’s some real nuts. I think I can handle guys like those two moslem terrorists a heck of a lot better than that weird American military personnel. Everybody jumps up and down over those two jerks in Paris but nobody seems to worry about the mental faculties of American military personnel that runs halfway around the world just to get to kill total strangers for no apparent reason. The whole concept boggles my mind.
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ShadysLife@aol.com
58 minutes ago
You say Global Warming is not connected to fossil fuel. This is proof that you and people like you are murdering our population. ISIL is less evil than you. The worse Muslim in the world is better than low life like you and religious people like you.
Shady
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Puma <CactusCougar@msn.com> wrote:
[T]hat attack in Paris was on a type of magazine we don’t even have here in the US. Get real. Charlie Hebdo targeted all religions and not just the Islam. The magazine has been around since the 60s. I wonder how long a magazine like that would last in the US without some televangelist calling on his followers to blow the place up. Furthermore, those 5 characters involved don’t represent every moslem, not even every moslem in France. Heck, when Chirac was still the president of France he once suggested that this magazine might want to tame some of it’s stuff down. Well, they didn’t and Chirac didn’t say any more about it (he could have closed them down but didn’t, but that’s France for you). If that attack was an attack on freedom of speech (although one would think it might really involve freedom of the press), then the entire US must be an assault on freedom of the press considering that a magazine of the type has never even existed in the US. And then there’s Snowden. Then again there is this: